Talk:Jam band
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Spiritualized and The Warlocks as jam bands?
[edit]Much of the material of both acts does feature jamming, but I am not sure if either one could be considered a jam band per se. Both have incorporated influences generally rejected by the jam band crowd, such as Spacemen 3 and Jesus and Mary Chain in the case of both, and The Cure and Black Sabbath in the case of the Warlocks. While both acts do jam, and both draw upon blues based influences that jam bands also have, I don't know if influences from 1980s British post-punk are conducive to the jam band genre.
Who deleted the jazz comment?
[edit]Not sure what went wrong here. I recently added the Jam Band's jazz branch to the article in a very small way. All I wanted to do was mention that Jazz (the original improv that stormed the US and eventually lead to Jam Bands) has a few bands, going all the way back to the 1970's, who have crossed the boundaries back and forth from legit Jazz to Jam bands. The Dirty Dozen is a great example of how a brass band can find themselves in a psychedelic freestyle jam and then bring it back (usually) to Jazz. I also mentioned The Primate Fiasco who is more recently doing the same thing, but with a slightly more Dixieland or Trad-Jazz feel blended with somewhat of a funk/disco.
I would appreciate an explaination of how this in not part of the Jam band scene. While you're explaining, please explain why we don't remove String Cheese. Or Carl Denson. Should we shove Medeski back into "modern Jazz" while we're at it?
After the whole debate about Dave matthews, it seems clear that we all agree that it's not about the style or sound, it's about the free flowing ideas that happen only once and then are different at the next show. The Dixieland/Jam combination is probably one of the most obvious examples.
I'm going to go ahead and put that back up. It's one sentence and I think if you take a moment you'll realize what you may otherwise be missing out on.
PS. I'm glad to see this much intelligent enthousiasm about Jam bands. Even from those who disagree with my point of view. This genre will remain part of music history much more than pop will.
Hopelessly bad writing
[edit]I started tightening the text, but I give up.
According to the chronology section, between 1990 and 1999 Phish was the only active jam band
[edit]The Paragraph "1990–1999: Phish" is ridiculous, it mentions no other band, it basically looks as if it was written by a boy-band teenage fan. Dave Matthews band was founded and came to prominence during that decade (with their 1994 album released under a major label) yet they're not even mentioned once. Instead, they are mentioned in the 80's paragraph, despite the fact that the band formed in 1991. The 1990-1999 paragraph does contain some interesting info but, in the form it is today, it is unsalvageable. So I decided to merge it with the previous paragraph, given that the previous paragraph actually covers the 90's. Mastazi (talk) 00:00, 22 January 2023 (UTC)